Great Scott!

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding, Recruitment


So take me away, I don’t mind. But you’d better promise me, I’ll be back in time.

The time is now January 12th, 2015.

A good time to formally announce our new raid times moving forward into 2015.

We’re going to be raiding Thursdays and Sundays from 6-9P server. That’s 6 hours per week, down from our former 9 hours per week. It’s shifted an hour earlier. The short term plan is for Thursdays to be our farm night and Sunday to be our progression night. So right now we’ll be doing Highmaul normal on Thursday and Highmail heroic on Sunday.

We have no plans for mythic raiding at this time. If the day should come that we’re roflstomping heroic modes and looking for a greater challenge, we’ll revisit the topic. But mostly, this raid is for fun and spending time with friends and family, so we’re not worried about it.

That said, The Ashen Order is recruiting! We need a good tank and some more DPS. We’re kinda full on healers but anything else we should be able to work in the rotation. Even if you aren’t a part of our guild or even our server, if you’d just like to join us on a regular basis please add Aily#1346 to your friends list and lets have a chat.

Evaluating Your Performance

Aily Posted in Raiding

Warning: I am going to pick on Darklogix in this post.

DPS meters can be dangerous tools. Its hard to tell the ‘gotchas’ of a fight, so to speak sometimes. Getting targeted with a boss ability may sometimes mean you need to move and that resets your cast. However, they give a good barometer of where you should be.

What I would like to do is take all of the parses within a certain ILVL range of a specific fight with a similar raid comp, and plot the dps values for a given class spec, and consider anything outside 1.5σ as a defect.

Unfortunately, I don’t have access to that kind of data. But what I do have is our parses on Darklogix does the logging, so I’m going to pick on him.

I’m going to look at the Fallen Protectors fight. It has the least RNG of the fights we can cleanly log. It shows who is good at handling cleave also.

First, I want to warcraftlogs and looked up what fire mages do on protectors:


Oh good. Fire mages can do 951k dps on that fight! Lets see what Darklogix did:


Oh, he did 302k dps. We can assume from this that Darklogix is only doing about 30% of the DPS fire mages are capable of.

But that’s not fair. Flêks has an ilvl of 587 compared to Darklogix’s 577. Flêks is a Troll and has the berserking racial. He is also on a team that kills the entire fight in 3m 36s compared to our 7m 31s. That really changes the equasion a bit.

So to get more fair, I start scrolling down the ranks. What I’m looking for is a mage that’s close to ilvl 577, on a team that took about 7 and a half minutes to kill the fight.

Here we go:


Niios has a 576 ilvl, much closer to Darklogix 577. Niios’s team killed the fight in 7m 20s. Very close.

What isn’t so close, Niios did 408k to Darklogix’s 302k. 33% higher DPS. Orc racial vs Worgen Racial for fire mage, Worgen comes out ahead. It’s outside of the range of what I would consider a RNG issue. So now that we’ve found a more sane comparison, lets dig down into it and see what makes this thing tick.

If you click on the players name and bring up their damage list, I like to compare them side by side like this:


Click to embiggen to see what I’m looking at here.

First off, I can see that Niios’s raid uses hero up front, whereas we’ve been using it on the 2nd Sun phase. I’ve been considering moving it to the 2nd rook phase actually to minimize the impact from the barrels, but it means that Niios damage is higher partially due to being able to stack cooldowns right up front.

Second, I look at abilities. Niios and Darklogix both cast a similar amount of Pyroblasts. However, Niios is using Living Bomb, and Darklogix is using Nether tempest.

I’d like to state that both of them have decent uptime on bomb, it could be better, but looking around at other fire mages 85-90% is about what most are getting. However, even though Niios uptime on his bomb is lower, he is doing way more damage with living bomb than nether tempest is doing. This suggests that Darklogix should be switching to Living Bomb. In fact, that would give Darklogix over 12 million more damage over the duration of the fight.

Lets look at another ability. Combustion. Niios is WAY better at using Combustion than Darklogix. I know there is some RNG here, but it is 22 million damage vs. 4 million damage. 80% uptime vs 22% uptime.

Now I admit, I don’t play a fire mage, but that seems pretty glaring. There may be a valid reason for it, but these are just the things standing out to me.

If you add the 12 million gained by switching to living bomb to the 18 million gained by better usage of combustion, that’s 30 million damage, or about 67k dps. That gets Darklogix a lot closer to Niios’s numbers.

Now lets look at buffs by clicking the buff tab.

Right away I spot a difference: Darklogix is using Rune of Power instead of Invoker’s Energy.

I’ve looked around and all the top level Fire mages and they’re all using Invoker’s Energy. It gives you more mobility and allows a higher uptime. Despite that, he has a pretty good uptime on Rune of Power, but he’d be better off using Invoker’s Energy. Arcane Mages use Rune of Power because they need to stay at max mana as much as possible to take advantage of their mastery. Darklogix needed to recast rune of power 14 times over the fight, vs 7 casts during the fight to maintain 100% uptime on Invoker’s.

Another thing the buff screen tells me is that it wasn’t RNG that allowed Niios to cast Pyroblast more. In fact, Darklogix had 91 pyroblast procs and Niios only had 74. This reinforces that Darklogix needs to get better at using Pyroblast to raise his damage.

TLDR – In Summary

I picked on Darklogix here because I knew he could take it and he does have a lot of potential he’s leaving untapped. But I think that’s more or less true of just about everyone in this raid. I just wanted to give some insight as to how to look at logs and figure out what you can be doing to do more dps. Back when we were a 10m team it was possible for me to go through each raider’s log parses. But with a 25m team, 18ish dps per night, that’s a lot of logs to look at.

Check out your own logs and look around at similar people that are parsing higher than you to try and figure out what you can be doing differently. It may be as simple as switching from Nether Tempest to Living Bomb, or it could be playstyle. Whatever it is, lets do it!

Maximizing Raid Performance

Aily Posted in Raiding


I have to admit, moving from 10 to 25 was a bit overwhelming at first. For me, it feels like in 10 man raiding everyone has such individual responsibility, but in 25 there’s so many people that that individualism gets a bit drowned out. If a dps dies in 25 it doesn’t feel like as big of a deal. We’ve lost ~6% of our DPS instead of ~16%.

However, the little things DO matter. Bringing your best to each and every pull is what separates top raid teams from those that struggle to finish the tier on Normal.

One of those little things we can do is pre-pot/pot. By that I mean, you use a potion to amp (amplify) your damage before the pull starts so that you can use a second potion later on in the fight. Even on fights we know we’re probably going to win, moving faster through the bosses gives us fewer chances for mistakes.

Iron Juggernaut last night was a great example, just a bit more damage we could have avoided the 2nd siege mode entirely. Even though we still won, it would have been better to avoid that last push.

Let’s do some math: I had Soylentgreen simulate his DPS using Simulationcraft with pre-potting and without. On a 5 minute fight, his simulated dps went from 387,797 to 396,820 (average). That’s a little under 9k. We’ll call it 8k damage to be conservative. Doesn’t sound like much, but let’s put that out to the entire raid. On average we run 2 tanks, 5 healers, 18 dps. If all 18 DPS go up by 8k each, that’s 144k dps. Almost an entire extra person on our team. Over the course of a 5 minute boss fight, that’s 43 million damage taken off the bosses health. How many wipes have we seen where the boss had less than a few million health to go?

That doesn’t even consider that at the front part of the fight we’re also stacking hero, trinket procs, etc. Frontend burst can really be a good source of damage, and adding in the extra bonus of using a pot later in the fight when it makes sense to help push through certain phases.

Many of you are already prepotting appropriately, but some haven’t been and I wanted to make sure we all understand that as a heroic raid team, we expect raiders will come prepared with enough pots to last the evening of pulls. I know it can get pricey but that’s the cost of being a heroic raider. Even on farm fights we need to be in the practice of doing our best… each and every pull. Farm pulls aren’t just for gear, they’re for practice and building muscle memory and perfecting our rotations.


P.S. We’re still recruiting talented experienced raiders!

Malkorok Heroic

Aily Posted in Raiding

Here’s some inspiration for you all on this fight.

On dodging the orbs:

On getting to the pools:

Lets assume by choppa he meant void zones.

We’ll get it!

SoO Week 30 – Galakras Falls

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding, Recruitment

Member Updates

Invited new raid members: Cyonn (DK)
Invited new members: Salacity, Poledra, Zhenwu
Left the Raid Team: Katrinka (Resto Druid)

It is with sadness that I announce that Katrinka is leaving our raid team, though with us a short time I feel she made a great contribution. The Ashen Order wishes her good luck with wherever she goes next.

Raid News

This week the team took a stab at Heroic Galakras, and killed it on the second pull!

Next week our targets are still Sha of Pride and Iron Juggernaut. If we have good success we may even try Shamans or Nazgrim.

PVP Team News

I have put up a poll in the general forum fishing for when a good time for a rated bg team would be. We have a lot of interest, its all about nailing down a time for it. Please visit the forum if you’re interested in running rated battlegrounds with the guild.

Recruitment News

This week we are still looking for ranged dps (non-hunter), and now a solid raid healer. Please send anyone who might be interested to the website.

In other recruiting news, due to the recent rapid growth in members of this guild The Ashen Order will no longer be accepting applications for non-raiding positions unless the applicant is friends with someone currently in the guild, until further notice. We need to slow our growth so that the existing members don’t feel overwhelmed with too many new names, and so that the new names get some stability as well. If you have any questions or concerns with this new policy, please let me know at

SoO Week 29 – 3 down, 11 to go

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding, Recruitment

Member Updates

Invited new raid member: Gnomelokz

Invited new members: Bubblestea, Aléssa

Left the Raid Team: Xak

Fairwyn has petitioned to switch from Hunter to Mistweaver monk for her main raiding char. Since we were looking for a full time mistweaver anyway and we had an abundance of hunters I approved this switch. She will still raid with the hunter for heroics for now until her Mistweaver is heroic ready (its close).

Raid News

The team dipped its toes into the heroic pool and managed to down not one, not two, but three heroic bosses our first week out as a heroic 25 team! It won’t be long before we catch up to where our 10 team left off, and from there, PROGRESSION.

This switch to 25 has gone smoother than I had anticipated and I deeply thank everyone for their efforts, its been a good move and will help this guild stabilize moving into WoD. Also, we are going to try our best to get a shot at Garrosh Heroic 25 before the next expansion hits. Stay Tuned!

PvP Team News

Our PvP team got a little boost from adding Bubblestea, a badass warlock who likes to execute fear chains expertly. However, we’re still trying to find a good time to put this, if you have any input please speak up in the forums so we can try to get a rated BG team on the ground.

SoO Week 28 – Putting it all together.

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding, Recruitment

General News

Last week, we killed everything including Garrosh Hellscream as a 25 raid!!


Well, it was normal modes, lets not get too excited. Heroic will be hugworthy.

Member News
New Raid Members:

New Members:

Please welcome them aboard when you see them online!

The Members Page has been Updated! – Please check out the members page and let me know if there needs to be any corrections. If I’ve missed you I apologize, it may have been an editing issue or a flat out miss. I encourage everyone to send me any kind of flair or updates you might have to help new members to get to know you better. See Basher’s profile for example.

The Raid
After successfully navigating Siege of Orgrimmar with 25 members, we have set our sights on Heroic Siege. We’re now going to resume our old raid schedule, progression on Tuesday and Thursday and cleanup on Sunday. As a 25 team, we plan to take on the Siege bosses in order and not skip around heroics. First up, Immerseus. I hope to push as far as we can before we clear on Sunday.

We are still looking for a few more ranged DPS to round us out, but the heals/mDPS and tanking feel really solid.

On Recruiting: If you’ve applied and you haven’t heard back from me, please email me at I’ve added everyone who has applied to my friends list but sometimes B-Net gets screwed up. I always follow up on every application, even if I don’t think it will be a good fit.

PVP Team
We’re still doing rated battlegrounds on Saturdays from 2-4. I’m feeling like this time isn’t a good time so I’m considering other times as we haven’t had a great turnout. Maybe Monday nights would be better? If you’re interested in doing organized PvP with the guild hop on into the forums and let us know when a good time would be for you.

Saturday Flex
The Saturday Flex raid is back on the table. Every Saturday from 6-10p server we’ll try and run a Flex. I might not always run it myself, but we’ll try to have something lined up every saturday to get through the fights. This is meant to be a fun run where we relax the rules a bit, hang out, and get some loot. Alts are welcome as long as they are an appropriate gear level (510 for wings 1 and 2, 520 for 3 and 530 for 4, though this is a guideline and not a rule).

Big Damn Heroes
The Big Damn Heroes Gift Shop has so far raised almost $50 for Doctors Without Borders. I’ll be sending off the donation soon, hoping to hit $100!

The Ashen Order Presents : Heroic Iron Juggernaut

Aily Posted in Raiding, Videos

This was our third kill on Iron Juggernaut. Brewmaster Monk (Aily) POV.

Video Editing and Music selection by Basher!

Intro – Rod Dougan – Furious Angels
1. Sherlock Season 2 – Prepared to do anything
2. Two Steps from Hell – Black Blade (From album Invincible)
3. Sherlock Season 3 – How it was done

SoO – Week 25 – Boosting, Expanding … and we have a gift shop!

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding, Recruitment

General News

The level 90 boost is live! Boost a noob today and send an officer a message for invite. We have lots of spirits of war in the guild bank so if you want some gear for your new alt send Aily an in game mail, lets limit it to one item per person for now.

In other news, Blizzard has announced the release for Warlords of Draenor will be Fall of 2014, with a tentative date of 12/20 (last day of fall).. that’s, a really long time for Tier 16 to be out, I expect that’s a placeholder date and hopefully it will come out toward the beginning of Fall, however, it means we have a lot of time to accomplish our goals.

Raid Team News

Repeated our progression kills (one shotting Iron Juggernaut this time) was cool. We made some great progression on Nazgrim. We’ll see how Tuesday goes to see where our focus will be Thursday.

For recruiting, we’re up to 16, possibly 17 members. At this rate we should be able to make the conversion to 25s within the next few weeks. There certainly will be some growing pains as we make this switch and I appreciate everyone’s patience while we go through this expanding period. Once we start tackling the content in the 25 format, gearing up new people will be easier and loot will drop faster. We hope to hit WoD running when it comes (when she comes)

On gearing up the new people, this Saturday I’m planning to run a full flex clear starting at 6p server like we used to. I think flex will get a lot more popular with the level 90 boost, and we have a lot of people now that can use the gear. If we could get some of our mains to come in and help, it will make it all the more faster. 🙂

PvP Strike Team

Remember Aily’s Srike team? Well doing away with that for the foreseeable future, replacing it with the PvP strike team! This saturday morning there were a few of us but we hope it catches on. Still trying to feel out a good time to place this, maybe Saturday Afternoons, please send me an in-game mail if you’re interested with what times you might like to go. Remember, this is for fun, not rating, so keep that in mind and we’re just going to have some fun with it.


Big Damn Mug

Big Damn Mug

Taking the Ashen Order pride into the real world, I would like to present to all, the ashen order gift shop! (or click the link above!)

Take a look, peruse, get yourself some cool real world loot! All profits generated from The Ashen Order Gift Shop will be donated to Doctors Without Borders. So get some cool loot and help give a little something to the real Big Damn Heroes of the world, all at the same time.

SoO – Week 24 – Back in the progression saddle

Aily Posted in Guild News, Raiding

Firing up the old progression guns …

(RIP, Harold Ramis)

This week, The Ashen Order finally got over the hump and made some progress, with the death of Iron Juggernaut HM, the raid team is now 6/14H!

The recruitment campaign is going well and the main raid team is up to 15 members, 14 of which are currently raid ready. We have added Tyxxer (Warlock), Xâk (Holy Paladin) and Dafixah (Hunter) to our team! Welcome aboard fellas!

We look forward to filling the 10 remaining raid spots to dip our toes into 25s before patch 6.0 comes out and we start mythic raiding.